The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. Illustrations courtesy of Hornady March 05, 2013 By Brad Fitzpatrick. I must say I'm a little surprised that an innocent little thread like this contains so many fierce defenses of one cartridge against another. I think alot goes back to when the 280 was a wildcat rd 7mm/06 and the 30-06 is 60kPSI they just kept it the same pressure level. It will offer a velocity advantage of about 300 fps or so over the 7x57mm Mauser with most bullet weights, and the most popular choice for the .280 Remington seems to be the 140-, 150- and 160-grain slugs. Mag.• .300 RSAUM vs. .300 WSM• .500 Jeffrey vs. .505 Gibbs• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. The 7-08 in place of the 7x57 loses nothing a deer would notice. 270 Win vs. 7x57 If you had these two calibers and they shoot equally well which would you keep and why? If I were you I would load it with Hornady GMX/Barnes X and not worry that you are under gunned or need a 7 mm. They also need less powder … Wow, what great bullet. I don't hand load, so would be reliant on factory ammunition. To simplify the question, the .270 holds more powder and it can shoot the same weigh bullets. Those were right around 50 KPSI and 2800 FPS. 500Whisper Vs 12,7x57 Anthis. A modern rifle in good condition being the only rider. Those were right around 50 KPSI and 2800 FPS. Atkinson. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations. Mag. EDIT: Also found a 7x57 test that I did on 150 grain bullets. I’m talking 7mm-08 vs. .308; .280 Rem. The Berger 180-grain VLD Target, Hornady 180-grain ELD Match, Sierra 183-grain MatchKing and Berger 195-grain EOL Elite Hunter have impressive BCs, but I was concerned whether the old 7x57 could drive the heavier bullets fast enough. Et le quelle est le meilleur . Sing it Bob. If hunting CXP2 game is your primary consideration, these four are exemplary cartridges, regardless of COL. The head diameter of the 7x64 is slightly smaller than the .280 (probably originally to avoid any patent issues with the Mauser brothers 8x57) however .270/.280 brass can be formed into 7x64. If you look at Nolser manual #6 they use custom barrels. Two classic 7mm cartridges, both with well-established reputations as all-around choices for general big game hunting, and both with a fair number of devotees. Introduced in 1925, the .270 is a necked-down .30-06 that holds .277 diameter bullets. versus une .30-06, une 7mm STW versus une .300 Wby ou encore, une 7mm Ultra Mag versus une .300 Ultra Mag. With slower powders the on paper data suggest thats possible at 65Kpsi. In this case 270 vs 280, I have no idea why the 280 was created. I had my Interarms Mark X in 7x57 rechambered to 280 Rem about 20 years ago and have regretted it ever since. My guesstimate is in a 22" barrel they are pretty much one in the same. The advantage of the 280 AI is the better selection of high BC bullets, slightly lower recoil and longer brass life. In a longer tube the extra case capacity of the 280 allows more of the slow burning stuff. HD . I have built customer's rifles in both calibers, shot them. In the hands of explorer/hunters like Walter Dalrymple Maitland Bell, known by his African nickname “Karamoja,” the 7x57mm Mauser—marketed in the U.K. as the .275 Rigby—would be used as an all-around cartridge, for animals as small as impala all the way up to elephant. It was subsequently adopted by several other … vs .280 Rem. In the 7mm bore diameter, these are both middle of the road choices, giving the shooter enough horsepower to get the job done, yet both are usually easy enough on the shoulder to allow for accurate shot placement. … Like the .280, the best powders for the 7x64 are those in the 4350 through to 4831 burn rate range. Thread Tools . The .30-06, and its older brother the .30-03, were necked up and down to hold bullets of many different diameters—think about the famous .270 Winchester, .25-06 Remington and .35 Whelen—but Remington released their .280 Remington in 1957. This will be a tough one, as they are both excellent designs, with long histories of great field performance. Jul 23, 2019 … Ballistics on each are nearly the same however the cost of doing the 7x57 Imp places me about $255.00 over budget when the chamber reamer and extra dies are factored in . Just finished building a 7x57 Ackley on a squared up Mauser 98 with a 26" Benchmark #4 9 twist barrel. At the turn of the 20th Century, with smokeless powder quickly replacing blackpowder, and jacketed bullets extending the terminal performance, the boundaries of acceptable cartridges were being developed and broken as technology progressed. It shot good as a 7x57 and still shoots good as a 280 Rem, but the difference is not noticable downrange, since I reload. 1 of 2 Go to page. Wow, what great bullet. Go. In the first editions, a load is given for the .450/.400 Nitro Express (3 inch), but by Can run 280/160's at 3,000 fps when taken to AI pressure level. In fact, those two cartridges are likely among the Top 10 best … Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? With the 7mm-08 rounds, the top performing round only has 295 inches of bullet drop while another has 435 inches. Alas, like the 7x57 it suffers somewhat from a low maximum breech pressure, 56,000 psi. Mine is now a .280 Imp-Imp, but it shot extemely well before the rechamber, I've only fired start loads to fire form in it so far, but even those shot mostly insdie of 2" shooting 5 shots groups as fast as I could reload, let it cool and do it again for 50 rounds! I need the boards input 7x57 Improved (40 degree) Vs standard 280 Remington. SAAMI spec pressure is higher with the 270 65KPSI vs 60KPSI for the 280. Seen more than a few taken with .270's and 30-06 though. Re: 500Whisper Vs 12,7x57 Anthis. The 300 WSM has proven to be more accurate than a 300 win mag. vs. .458 Lott• 7mm Rem. Bolt Action Rifles Sponsored by Camera Land.280 vs. 7x57 . 7mm Wby Mag. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure (29.92 inHg/1013 mbar) … Mag.• .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards• .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum• .22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift• .270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM• .26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum• .458 Win. 7x57 Mauser What rifle are you buying marked .257 Rigby? Mag. I can't say anything about the .270 Winchester that hasn't already been written unless I lie. ... • .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington • .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser 7x57 vs. .280 Remington. vs. .300 Ultra Mag. 7x57 vs. .280 Remington. The truth is that the 7x57 has proven itself adequate for even the world's biggest game under the right circumstances. It is a flat-shooting cartridge, and though it does have more recoil than does the Mauser, it’s very user-friendly. I would have to say tha as a hunting rifle, either will do about the same. par flu-flu » 09 Fév 2005 21:54 . The longer .280 Remington and other similar capacity cartridges actually add little killing power, but their increased recoil and muzzle blast make it seem as if they do. vs. .300 Win. Effective Game Killing Cartridge of the month: 300 Winchester Magnum Inspiration Show all Inspiration 10 tips for hunters in quarantine Wild Berlin - Hunting in urban areas Reactions: WVgoodguy22. 7x57 or 280 Remington. Wage war across the galaxy with three unique and powerful races. The result: a necked neck. StarCraft II is a real-time strategy game from Blizzard Entertainment for the PC and Mac. I used to shoot the 170 gr. The 7x57 is a nice upgrade to that. Factory 7x57 loads typically run from 139 to 175 grains, so Hornady's 150-grain ELD-X and 162-grain ELD Match appeared perfectly suited for this. Last year I contracted for a custom 7x57 … STOMP442 said: Just finished building a 7x57 Ackley on a squared up Mauser 98 with a 26" Benchmark #4 9 twist barrel. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. vs. .300 Wby. The 7x57 mm is neither wildly popular nor widely available, but neither is the .280 Rem. vs. .340 Wby. 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For example, in the first edition, there are loads for the .219 Zipper, .25-35, .280 Remington, 8x57, .358 Norma Magnum and .460 Weatherby; the 16th edition lists loads for the 6mm Creedmoor, .25-36 Marlin and 7.7mm Arisaka, among others. I have owned(and still do) plenty of 7x57,7mm-08 as well as .280 Remington. by Philip Massaro - I've loaded for both and have owned several 280's, 3-4 7x57, but have only worked with 140's in each because there was no requirement for a 160 for my hunting.All these rifles had 22" barrels and ran the gamut from Remington Mountain rifles to full blown customs. I like the Norma 156-grain Oryx load at a muzzle velocity of 2641 fps, as that bullet had proven to be wonderfully accurate and I’m a fan of that bullet’s terminal performance. DrMike Post subject: Re: 7x57 or 7x57 AI. Hope you had a good Christmas. I've loaded the 175 in the 280 using 58 grains of 7828 for, SAAMI for the 7x57 is 51Kpsi. is a first-generation smokeless powder rimless bottlenecked rifle cartridge.It is known as .275 Rigby in the United Kingdom. Same cartridge, just different name. 1941 270: 1895 7x57: _____ Ray. The cartridge and the Mauser rifle of course to this day stand out as impeccable performers on Africa big game. AH ambassador. Planetcat, Jun 7, 2018. In the High Velocity guise—the throat of the chamber is modified to work best with the 140-grain bullets—as is so popular in the U.K. for stalking red deer and hunting roe deer, the cartridge handles those species perfectly. were included in that article, but could not match the four short list cartridges in the area of availability of rifles and ammunition (read popularity). (The 7x57 was designed for 175 grain bullets and the 6.5x55 for 160 grain bullets.) Nous vous livrons également au drive sans-contact du Magasin de Nîmes. It’s worth noting, however, that some loads have been dropped. AGW- duh!!! as a benchmark, according to the Remington website for same bullet factory load. 7mm Rem Mag. 280 Remington. The 175-grain loads have actually received a bit of a boost over the years, with muzzle velocities in excess of 2400 fps, and are as effective, if not more, than what Karamoja had. All comments are welcome and appreciated. Shaw and just have your Ruger rebarreled to another 7x57 or to 280. I have two 7x57 loads that both test near 55 KPSI, and which both put a 160/162 grain bullet at a trifle under 2750 FPS. Check it out! I can't part with either one!!! Richard Mann tries to defend his beloved 308 Winchester against the ballistically superior 7mm-08 Remington championed by Ron Spomer. One .270 Win round only has 280 inches of bullet drop at this range while another has 444 inches of bullet drop. The .280 is an excellent shooter, I don't recollect anyone here having one that doesn't love theirs, mine include. Looking for some pet loads for the 160-168 class of bullets. .257 Rigby/7x57 Mauser.257 Rigby is what British gunmakers called the 7x57 at one time. Exemples, une 7mm-08 contre .308, une .280 Rem. Mar 2, 2013 #8 This is a bit like a 308 or 30/06 thread. Mag.• .375 Ruger vs. .375 H&H Magnum• 7mm-08 Remington vs. .280 Remington• .280 Remington vs. .280 Ackley Improved• 7mm vs. .30 Caliber• 6.5 Weatherby RPM vs. 6.5 PRC• .338 Win. Jul 22, 2019 #8 Wapiti426 New member. My great room is littered with reloading manuals, articles ECT. I'm glad someone created the 6mm but it wasn't a necessity to fill a gap. quote: Originally posted by fredj338: What rifle is that being built on? Check it out! The 7×57mm Mauser (designated as the 7mm Mauser or 7×57mm by the SAAMI and 7 × 57 by the C.I.P.) ArmedBear Member. Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:22 pm Posts: 459 Location: Washington State, USA I guess the nostalgia of the 7x57 appeals to me over the 280. 7mm Rem SA Ultra Mag. Twist rates for rifle barrels tend to differ slightly from manufacturer to manufacturer and from decade to decade (1:9-1:10), therefore, experimentation with the full range of 7mm bullet weights is often a requirement. quote: Originally posted by fredj338: What rifle is that being built on? I would not expect much difference at equal peak pressures. Mag. Does the old 7x57 offer enough to make a hunter choose it over the .280? Que peut-on attendre de ces 2 calibres en performance,subsonique et supersonique? Maybe the best way to really determine the difference in velocity potential between two cartridges is to perform tests including multiple rifles and loads loaded to the same pressure as determined by the latest test equipment. - DrMike. The .280 Remington retains the same 17-degree 30-minute shoulder of the .30-06 but uses the 2.54-inch case of the .30-03 Springfield. fredj, being the Sako maniac I am, it is on a M-75 action with a McMillan stock, Wiseman barrel, and Wiseman 'printing' of the action. La balistique en quelques chiffres . Top . The 7x57 produces velocities around 100 to 150fps slower than the .270 and .280 Remington and in doing so, tends to produce mild recoil (in suitably fitting rifles). One of the greater benefits of the 57mm case design is that velocity is limited to a level which tends to bring about optimum bullet performance with regard to terminal ballistics. The answer is that one fits in to a short action and the other gives you about an extra 100 to 150 FPS±. There is a long list of cartridges that spawned from other cartridges that became phenomenal creations. But if you enjoy the historical ties to cartridges, and your shots stay inside of 300 yards, there’s no reason to say no to the 7x57mm Mauser; it just doesn’t have the capability of the .280 Remington at longer ranges. … I can't part with either one!!! They are the same cartridge, sort of like the .244 Remington/6MM Remington and the 7MM Express Remington/.280 Remington. Both the 7x57 and 280 are capable of somewhat higher pressures than this. The 7x57, 7mm-08, 6.5x55 and .260 Rem. Last edited: Jun 9, 2018. Like @wbm says, fine … Be advised that the neck on the .280 is a good deal smaller in diameter than the 7x57. Over 2900fps with a 140 accubond. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. The 7x57 is about perfectly balanced, case size vs. bore. Toute cartouche de calibre .30 fournit plus d'énergie qu'une cartouche de 7 mm comparable. Joined: Sep 8, 2005 Messages: and owned them. I had the .35 Whelan built some time ago for Elk hunting. As I pointed out on another thread , I have never been able to a .280 to shoot unless i loaded down quite abit. It is the success of the 7x57mm Mauser which has caused so many cartridges to be necked up or down to hold 7mm bullets; the .280 Remington is no exception. After the Spanish-American War of the late 1890s, our military was forced to re-examine the .30-40 Krag; ultimately the influence of the 7x57mm Mauser gave rise to the .30-06 Springfield that we still hold so dear. ! Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I have a lovely Ruger Model 77 in 7 x 57 Mauser too, but thought just to be on the safe side to up gun from that to the 280. Comme le 7x57, au­quel il pro­pose une al­ter­na­tive plus puis­sante, uti­li­sable dans le boî­tier des Mau­ser 98, le 7x64 est pen­sé au­tour d’une balle de 11,3 g. Pour ce­la, l’avi­sé Bren­neke choi­sit de conser­ver le pas de rayure de 220 mm (8,8 inches). One of the greater benefits of the 57mm case design is that velocity is limited to a level which tends to bring about optimum bullet performance with regard to terminal ballistics. The switch would later be made to the 139-grain spitzer bullet at a much higher velocity, though the heavier bullet—and the Mauser rifle—made the 7x57mm Mauser’s reputation in the hunting fields. Latest. Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge topped by a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. With the Hornady Custom .275 Rigby load 140-grain load moving at 2680 fps, it will still retain over 1,000 ft-lbs at the 400-yard mark. 7-08 vs 280 is about the same as the 308 vs 30-06 discussion. While all four are pretty commonly available, the .270 Winchester and the 7mm Remington Magnum are by far the most popular out of the bunch. You thinking of Roberts or 280?- drybean. My favorite rifle is a 7x57. The case capacity and velocities generated by the .280 Remington make is a great choice for those who want the capability to take elk at 400 yards, bear over bait at 40 yards, and everything in between. It shot good as a 7x57 and still shoots good as a 280 Rem, but the difference is not noticable downrange, since I reload. Tuesday, October 27, 2020. The 7x57mm Mauser is the brainchild of Peter Paul Mauser, developed in 1892, and was adopted by the Spanish Military a year later. S. srvet Well-Known Member. Edited to add; I see now that cptpoly posted the same link, good info though. Illustrations courtesy of Hornady March 05, 2013 By Brad Fitzpatrick. Survival. With good handloads the cartridge comes very close to 7mm Remington Magnum performance--and does it in a shorter barrel while burning a whole lot less powder. That said, the 7x57mm Mauser can be a very versatile cartridge as well. Looking at the elder cartridge, the 7x57mm Mauser began life as a military cartridge, and went on to inspire America’s sweetheart, the .30-06 Springfield. 28 Nosler. 7-08 vs 280 is about the same as the 308 vs 30-06 discussion. Thanks all, I appreciate it. We've got you covered.• .300 Win. Palouser Post subject: Re: 7x57 or 7x57 AI. Joined Feb 25, 2019 Messages 17 Location Colorado . That’s not the point, or at least it shouldn’t be whenever one hears the 7mm vs 30 caliber argument. In their data the 280 has 26" barrel and 24" for the 270 and the 280 has alittle better velocity. The Contestants. Under 200 yards you can't tell the difference. #3 The more efficient cases are a big part of the reason for enhanced accuracy since the powder burns more consistently. Among many of the East African settlers, the sheer availability of both rifles and ammunition were good reason for using the cartridge on nuisance animals like lion, leopard and the plentiful antelope. Uncle Grinch, Mar … I have built customer's rifles in both calibers, shot them. I remember reading a post written by BobVZ on the our old message board explaining his results of converting a 7x57 to a 280 Remington. 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Post subject: Re: 7x57 or 7x57 AI that much of an advantage over.280!, regardless of COL # 6 they use custom barrels a hunter choose over... Adequate for even the world 's biggest game under the right circumstances 7x57 Improved ( 40 degree ) standard... Size vs. bore Inc. all Rights Reserved has 26 7x57 vs 280 Benchmark # 4 9 barrel! 7X57Mm Mauser can be a tough one, as they are the same weigh bullets. 2017 1.

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